I dont know if you are interested but im going to post in reply about the negatives and film. I did a little research. I found out why your film doesnt have grain, produces true black, but also does have a small tint to it although not always blue, sometimes red. ( i apologize if this is truly boring, im just interested in the technical stuff)
First your film doesnt have grain bc it is c41 process, which is standard for color film. With color film, as opposed to standard tmax or any other b+w which has t shaped grain,there is limited grain bc what appears is dye clouds which have much finer points than the interlocking t grain of "b+w". Also why very few color images have grain.
second, you get true black bc the film you are using is one a of a few true b+w c41 process films, (ilford makes the other).There are several different emulsion filter layers which recognize colors, primarily blue, red and yellow with your film. By combining the colors it recognizes it can produce a true black dye.
your film has to be printed on color paper, most likely where the blue comes from, bc it has the contrast mask associated with color film ( the orange color on the negative), which is likely the only noticable difference with b+w normal process film which can be hand printed on multigrade b+w paper. Chances are the cyan, magenta and other "accidental" colors, are simply an area of the image which can not be recognized by color paper as true white.
Again sorry for boring you, but i thought it was interesting. Anyways great shot, ive really emjoyed the latest series of images.
nah man.... its not boring to me... and Austin just asked about this....
all that sounds good.... i already knew about the dye process as i have been printing in my darkroom again and using a grain focus scope. it still works but not as easily as it would with TMAX...
there is only one problem with what you said... the images that you are talking about, on this blog, have never been printed commercially.... as i understand it this color cast that you are referring to comes from, as you said, printing on color paper.
when i print these in the darkroom they produce true black and white prints though they do require longer exposure times and the use of a #4 contrast filter.
Thanks for the reply, thats makes sense about the contrast/exposure change. I guess I was always just told to not try to print c41 manually, so i never really attempted it.
11 comments:
yeeeesh... nice
This is beautiful! Great textures.
What kind of film is this? It seems like it has a blue tent to it.
hey austin...
see this previous post:
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7770810399273857406&postID=5588556287133774694&pli=1
another great shot!
Pegg, Awesome shot.
I dont know if you are interested but im going to post in reply about the negatives and film. I did a little research. I found out why your film doesnt have grain, produces true black, but also does have a small tint to it although not always blue, sometimes red. ( i apologize if this is truly boring, im just interested in the technical stuff)
First your film doesnt have grain bc it is c41 process, which is standard for color film. With color film, as opposed to standard tmax or any other b+w which has t shaped grain,there is limited grain bc what appears is dye clouds which have much finer points than the interlocking t grain of "b+w". Also why very few color images have grain.
second, you get true black bc the film you are using is one a of a few true b+w c41 process films, (ilford makes the other).There are several different emulsion filter layers which recognize colors, primarily blue, red and yellow with your film. By combining the colors it recognizes it can produce a true black dye.
your film has to be printed on color paper, most likely where the blue comes from, bc it has the contrast mask associated with color film ( the orange color on the negative), which is likely the only noticable difference with b+w normal process film which can be hand printed on multigrade b+w paper. Chances are the cyan, magenta and other "accidental" colors, are simply an area of the image which can not be recognized by color paper as true white.
Again sorry for boring you, but i thought it was interesting.
Anyways great shot, ive really emjoyed the latest series of images.
nah man.... its not boring to me... and Austin just asked about this....
all that sounds good.... i already knew about the dye process as i have been printing in my darkroom again and using a grain focus scope. it still works but not as easily as it would with TMAX...
there is only one problem with what you said... the images that you are talking about, on this blog, have never been printed commercially.... as i understand it this color cast that you are referring to comes from, as you said, printing on color paper.
when i print these in the darkroom they produce true black and white prints though they do require longer exposure times and the use of a #4 contrast filter.
Thanks for the reply, thats makes sense about the contrast/exposure change. I guess I was always just told to not try to print c41 manually, so i never really attempted it.
What kind of paper do you use?
Ilford VC Pearl
that's a nice quality paper
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